View Full Version : Metzler M3s vs. Dunlop Qualifiers
Aracheon
09-20-2007, 11:10 PM
The intention is 40% track, 60% street/canyon riding.
Of these two, which is the better tire?
SiC-0
09-20-2007, 11:13 PM
Dunlop, hands down...Dont take that PP's are the whip, cuz as i proved with my crash they arent all that.
R1Gurl
09-20-2007, 11:17 PM
Dunlop, hands down...Dont take that PP's are the whip, cuz as i proved with my crash they arent all that.You're running on trashed PP Races, huge difference. I have PP and love em.
As for Dunlop and Metzeler, I've only heard about them, don't have any first hand experience with either. :oops:
SiC-0
09-20-2007, 11:21 PM
The thing is, I have ridden all 3 and i will say that for street and track (short term) application, the dunlops are by far the best..Not too soft, but easy to heat up..
In the end weather we like it of not, its what ever we are comfortable being on..IMO
PlayfulGod
09-20-2007, 11:37 PM
only qualifiers worth a snot are the oem's. I heard good things about the M-3's tho, comparible to the PP's. I have Pilot Roads (love em) on mine atm and have maybe a couple more thousand miles left (5k +). But I am gonna get PP's to replace them.
Aracheon
09-20-2007, 11:40 PM
My preference was for the Pirelli Diablo Corsa 3s... but I would almost end up spending 66% more on them - when really, they don't offer THAT much of an advantage over an M3 or a Qualifier at my skill level.
haywood jablome
09-21-2007, 12:00 AM
i LOVE the qualifiers. That is what i had on my TLR
Konich
09-21-2007, 11:44 AM
I have Qualifiers and love them. But be careful, once the start to get heat cycled they don't give you much notice when they "go away." I'm pretty sure this is the reason for Shortcakes guardrail encounter. If your going to do the 40/60 track street split be ready to only get one season out of them.
Personally I'm going to try the new Bridgestone BT-002's street/tracks that just came out. They heat up better than regular BT-002's and should work well on the street/track/rain.
CBRChick
09-21-2007, 12:55 PM
My preference was for the Pirelli Diablo Corsa 3s... but I would almost end up spending 66% more on them - when really, they don't offer THAT much of an advantage over an M3 or a Qualifier at my skill level.
I have Corsas on my bike right now, but I've always loved Metzlers, would be my preference but they weren't at MMP during R2SL when I needed to replace my tires.
I can get about 5,000 miles from a set of Pirellis/ Metzlers and still have great traction toward the end of the tire life...
These days, it seems like all the "high performance" tires are becoming so similar that it just comes down to personal preference....
PlayfulGod
09-21-2007, 01:02 PM
I have Qualifiers and love them. But be careful, once the start to get heat cycled they don't give you much notice when they "go away." I'm pretty sure this is the reason for Shortcakes guardrail encounter. If your going to do the 40/60 track street split be ready to only get one season out of them.
Personally I'm going to try the new Bridgestone BT-002's street/tracks that just came out. They heat up better than regular BT-002's and should work well on the street/track/rain.
Thats why they arent like by many. The PP's give you some warning. I only get one season out of a set of tires and I aint done any track days yet.
SiC-0
09-21-2007, 01:03 PM
I havnt been on PP at all. Well once on R1Gurls bike. But i can vouch for all the others.. IM most comfortable on Dunlops.
PlayfulGod
09-21-2007, 01:11 PM
I havnt been on PP at all. Well once on R1Gurls bike. But i can vouch for all the others.. IM most comfortable on Dunlops.
In the end thats all that count.
SiC-0
09-21-2007, 01:19 PM
Indeed.
Konich
09-21-2007, 02:46 PM
It really boils down to price and how much you want to maintain your tires.
For instance, Dunlops are around 250 a set mounted, PP are closer to 400 a set. However, Dunlops are easily heat cycled so you will need to pay closer attention to them (tire warmers for track days to keep the heat cycles down) were the PP don't require so much attention but will cost more.
However the price of crashing is much more expensive.
All of them, Dunlops, PP, Metz's are good tires just be aware of the tire pressures for each and heat cycles they can take :)
Aracheon
09-21-2007, 11:11 PM
It really boils down to price and how much you want to maintain your tires.
For instance, Dunlops are around 250 a set mounted, PP are closer to 400 a set. However, Dunlops are easily heat cycled so you will need to pay closer attention to them (tire warmers for track days to keep the heat cycles down) were the PP don't require so much attention but will cost more.
However the price of crashing is much more expensive.
All of them, Dunlops, PP, Metz's are good tires just be aware of the tire pressures for each and heat cycles they can take :)
Now you're making me paranoid. LoL. I'm gonna have to keep a close eye on them. Oh... I saw Shortcake's bike when I was up at TFOG today. Walked up and got a close look at it. I'm glad she's okay... that thing looked bad. :(
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